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1/48 scale Bf 109's x 2
- Thread starter matrixone
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phantom II
Master at Arms
Well, I find that statement humorous . :laugh:
It's hard to make a spotless finish but if you batter it up , who can say whether you screwed it up ? It would just be battered
Cheers, Christian B)
The color photograph has been around for ages but the b/w image is one I have not seen before, thanks for posting it!
Speaking of 109's with a battered finish the Hasegawa Bf 109G-14 I am building is going to be marked as 'yellow 18' of 7./JG 3 and it also has a badly worn paint job. Some of the paint on the panel lines on the fuselage have peeled off and looks like they were retouched with brush painted RLM 02, also an earlier marking on the fuselage had been crudely brush painted out and the yellow 18 painted on top of it. The RLM 74 on the center of the fuselage cross has some paint missing near the top, it was either scraped off or peeled off. This Hasegawa kit is a breeze to build but the ease of assembly will be more than offset by the difficulty of the paint scheme.
Matrixone
Speaking of 109's with a battered finish the Hasegawa Bf 109G-14 I am building is going to be marked as 'yellow 18' of 7./JG 3 and it also has a badly worn paint job. Some of the paint on the panel lines on the fuselage have peeled off and looks like they were retouched with brush painted RLM 02, also an earlier marking on the fuselage had been crudely brush painted out and the yellow 18 painted on top of it. The RLM 74 on the center of the fuselage cross has some paint missing near the top, it was either scraped off or peeled off. This Hasegawa kit is a breeze to build but the ease of assembly will be more than offset by the difficulty of the paint scheme.
Matrixone
A short time ago the pre-shading was sprayed over, all went well during this airbrush session.
As for my experiment of using dark blue for pre-shading the undersurfaces it was okay but I will go back to using gray colors, the blue did not work as well for this purpose.
Matrixone
As for my experiment of using dark blue for pre-shading the undersurfaces it was okay but I will go back to using gray colors, the blue did not work as well for this purpose.
Matrixone
Thanks Paul!
I have seen some photographs of operational Bf 109's that returned from missions and had landing mishaps making it easy to see the empty shell chutes and how that part of the 109 could get really dirty...from what I could see the staining was caused by a mix of leaking engine oil and powder stains from the empty shells being ejected.
Matrixone
I have seen some photographs of operational Bf 109's that returned from missions and had landing mishaps making it easy to see the empty shell chutes and how that part of the 109 could get really dirty...from what I could see the staining was caused by a mix of leaking engine oil and powder stains from the empty shells being ejected.
Matrixone
White_Wolf
Master at Arms
Photos coming soon Les, hope will help with painting / weathering / finish. I got close-ups where possible, plenty of scratches and dents, markings and all that. Hope it will help
In the meantime, here's a link to some of the stuff in their collection:
http://www.awm.gov.au/search/all/?query=messerschmitt+109&op=Search§ion%5B0%5D=collections&filter%5Btype%5D=Photograph
Laurence
In the meantime, here's a link to some of the stuff in their collection:
http://www.awm.gov.au/search/all/?query=messerschmitt+109&op=Search§ion%5B0%5D=collections&filter%5Btype%5D=Photograph
Laurence
A short time ago the pre-shading was sprayed over, all went well during this airbrush session.
As for my experiment of using dark blue for pre-shading the undersurfaces it was okay but I will go back to using gray colors, the blue did not work as well for this purpose.
Matrixone
Skinny_Mike
Well-known member
Looking great man! These -109s sure are fun to build.
:drinks
:drinks
White_Wolf
Master at Arms
As promised, the Me109G at the museum in Canberra. Sorry for the blurry one. The plane is mounted on a pillar 5-6 m above ground so I could take a pic of the belly (sort of).
Hope it helps
Laurence
Hope it helps
Laurence
phantom II
Master at Arms
Thanks Laurence . I much prefer seeing these birds in their original paint jobs .
They are a far cry from the perfect articles shown in most museum . It really depicts how hard life really was in those days .
Cheers, Christian B)
They are a far cry from the perfect articles shown in most museum . It really depicts how hard life really was in those days .
Cheers, Christian B)
Thanks jugjunkie, Bob, Dusan, and Laurence!
jugjunkie,
Most WWII birds just look more natural with some weathering on them and that is especially true for Axis aircraft.
Just two weeks ago I was looking through my copy of 'Augsburg Nest Of Eagles' published by Classic and what really caught my eye was several photographs of brand new Bf 109s that had been test flown and even though they had only been in the air for a short time they still had exhaust stains and the tires had some dust and dirt on them.
Laurence,
Thanks for posting those pictures of the Bf 109, its always a treat to see one of the old warbirds still in the original colors.
If you look closely at the swastika the white outline is applied with the use of a stencil, this 109 was recycled and parts of the airframe had to be repainted which in this case included the swastika. Also check out the funky mottling on the rudder...not exactly factory standard. :hmmm
Matrixone
jugjunkie,
Most WWII birds just look more natural with some weathering on them and that is especially true for Axis aircraft.
Just two weeks ago I was looking through my copy of 'Augsburg Nest Of Eagles' published by Classic and what really caught my eye was several photographs of brand new Bf 109s that had been test flown and even though they had only been in the air for a short time they still had exhaust stains and the tires had some dust and dirt on them.
Laurence,
Thanks for posting those pictures of the Bf 109, its always a treat to see one of the old warbirds still in the original colors.
If you look closely at the swastika the white outline is applied with the use of a stencil, this 109 was recycled and parts of the airframe had to be repainted which in this case included the swastika. Also check out the funky mottling on the rudder...not exactly factory standard. :hmmm
Matrixone
That's a good point Ian, in several of my reference books I have seen photographs of Luftwaffe ground crew wet sanding and polishing the paint to make it as smooth as possible...of course that was done before the heavy losses of aircraft later in the war which made the extra effort in polishing the flying surfaces a waste of time. Also later in the war a lot of ground crew were transferred to the Army to make up for manpower shortages on the Eastern front...the remaining ground crew had their hands full keeping the aircraft flightworthy which left little extra time for waxing the aircraft.
Matrixone
Matrixone
Oops, I did it again 
, another 109 has been started. This 109 kit is a real moldy oldy from Revell from the late 1970's-early 1980's, I chased off the spiders and grabbed the box and started work on it right away, this model will be mostly O.O.B. except for the decals, I want to mark this 109 as one of the many 109's that surrendered to American forces on May 8th 1945 at Neubiberg.
This may be some classic plastic but Revell did an excellent on this kit and it is still worth building even today.
Check out the old Revell sweepstakes entry I found in the box...look at the truck and the motorcycle that were to be given away as prizes.
I have given the cockpit parts a coat of RLM 66 Black-gray so I can soon start some detail painting.
Below are the other 109's that have been started and painting of the uppersurfaces has begun.
When I paint models of Luftwaffe fighters I usually paint the wings and tail planes separately from the fuselage, this way I have something to hang onto without the risk of getting fingerprints in wet paint.
Here you can see the wavy demarcation line on the leading edges, this is the most difficult part in painting the wings so I like to get this part out of the way first.
The Hasegawa Bf 109G-14 is the one at the top of this picture and in this shot the pre-shading on the undersides can just barely be seen.
This last picture shows the differences between the wavy demarcation lines on the leading edges of the G-14 and the Frankenschmitt Bf 109K-4 (Frankenschmitt is on the lower right). Bf 109K-4's did not often have neatly applied leading edge wavy demarcation lines like the earlier G-6 and G-14 did and I was successful in capturing this effect on my Frankenschmitt.
Matrixone
, another 109 has been started. This 109 kit is a real moldy oldy from Revell from the late 1970's-early 1980's, I chased off the spiders and grabbed the box and started work on it right away, this model will be mostly O.O.B. except for the decals, I want to mark this 109 as one of the many 109's that surrendered to American forces on May 8th 1945 at Neubiberg.This may be some classic plastic but Revell did an excellent on this kit and it is still worth building even today.
Check out the old Revell sweepstakes entry I found in the box...look at the truck and the motorcycle that were to be given away as prizes.
I have given the cockpit parts a coat of RLM 66 Black-gray so I can soon start some detail painting.
Below are the other 109's that have been started and painting of the uppersurfaces has begun.
When I paint models of Luftwaffe fighters I usually paint the wings and tail planes separately from the fuselage, this way I have something to hang onto without the risk of getting fingerprints in wet paint.
Here you can see the wavy demarcation line on the leading edges, this is the most difficult part in painting the wings so I like to get this part out of the way first.
The Hasegawa Bf 109G-14 is the one at the top of this picture and in this shot the pre-shading on the undersides can just barely be seen.
This last picture shows the differences between the wavy demarcation lines on the leading edges of the G-14 and the Frankenschmitt Bf 109K-4 (Frankenschmitt is on the lower right). Bf 109K-4's did not often have neatly applied leading edge wavy demarcation lines like the earlier G-6 and G-14 did and I was successful in capturing this effect on my Frankenschmitt.
Matrixone
Wonder who own...:hmmm
Love the scalloped edges Les
Love the scalloped edges Les